"They are so much different to what the media portrays them to be."

Gillian Shark grew up in landlocked Switzerland, terrified of sharks, even in swimming pools! Then, on a family holiday, three lemon sharks glided toward her in crystal-clear water. Next grew a fascination which became her life's work. 

In our latest episode of Curious Conversations, Gillian joins our host Joey (whose own PhD dug into the mating systems of tropical shark populations) for a rare meeting of two shark lovers in one room.

Together they explore: 

- The false sense of safety behind shark nets

- The patience of photographing wild animals

- Why words like "attack" and "infested" shape the way we see these animals

- The small everyday choices that ripple outward for ocean protection